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Versanis · Heavy Contributor Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 27

Either way it doesn't really matter, because both sprints and ghosting are only as hard as you push yourself to make them. That said, doing standard sets of repeated court sprints is far easier than most ghosting exercises. I do both frequently, and find ghosting far more difficult but it would depend on the individual. If you had particularly strong legs, you might find ghosting easier than court sprints.

bendi36 · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject:

Gaydrian your an idiot but I agree with you. Ghosting is much harder than court sprints and much better for your squash. Everything else you wrote sounds stupid but and Manus your exact words were: court sprints push your heat rate right up to 100% usually. I doubt you even get close 100%. That's your absolute maximum. If you kept pushing your body up to that level at the end of every set of court sprints your body would stop functioning and you would need alot longer than a minute to recover.
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manus · Prolific Contributor Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 202

Adrian19 · Prolific Contributor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 230

Because they're not doing the type of ghosting that would be termed 'brutal'. More like medium intensity or light ghosting would be what they'd be doing on a recovery day. If they were actually doing high-intensity ghosting on a recovery day then it wouldn't actually be recovery.
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manus · Prolific Contributor Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 202

Adrian19 · Prolific Contributor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 230

I didn't exaggerate about the beep test, I just said that I beatit, made it through all the levels.

Why shouldn't ghosting be brutal and done at a brutal pace? Once you have the proper footwork, you have it and its not necessary to slowly repeat it over and over to work on foot work. At least I never have had to. And since ghosting mimics the exact movements and body positions of actual game play its the best drill for overall squash fitness and preparation if you push yourself but the same is true about courts sprints although courts sprints are easier as you're always running upright and not lunging down then up again.

Running upright for a full court length rarely occurs in squash and does not train you for the low lunges and recovery back to the T as ghosting does. Doing ghosting routines as fast as you can is seriously the best fitness preparation for squash, better than court sprints anyway. Doing ghosting slowly is pointless if you already have the correct movement practised and polished.

I realise now that I'd been posting with the assumption that high-quality level players would be doing the ghosting, not lower level players that need to practise court movements, my bad. Yes, in the case of beginners... ghosting could be done at a lower pace and court-sprints could be used for fitness. The best players can "ghost" at full-pace and get a harder more squash specific workout then doing court-sprints.

Settle down, manis.
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manus · Prolific Contributor Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 202

i agree to disagree then. the pros do ghosting to ensure their movement is up to scratch but i suppose that you are much better than them. you must be fitter than them too seeing as pros cant beat the test but you can.............

bendi36 · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

Manus just because Simon Parke says something doesn't make it true. I don't rush around but I push myself and do it properly. I would rate 120 stroke ghosting harder than 100 court sprints. Also Manus your only phrase I was critiquing was "court sprints push your heat rate right up to 100% usually".
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manus · Prolific Contributor Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 202

maybe you could give simon and the other pros some tips then, you could even coach them. just because you believe something to be true doesnt make it actually true either.....

Adrian19 · Prolific Contributor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 230

manus · Prolific Contributor Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 202

i dont think you are fitter than the pros, i think you are lying again........

Adrian19 · Prolific Contributor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 230

Never said I was as fit as the pros. All I said was that I beat the beep test.

A typical squash pro probably doesn't put in the hours of fitness training that are required to beat that test. That is what i was doing... extreme fitness training. I had trained lots for squash then took a break of like a year and just worked out for cardio. I did stuff to become faster and have greater endurance, including plyometrics style stuff.

So I never said i was fitter now... I was just saying that a man that is already very fit like the top squash pros could beat that test if they concentrated on stuff that would help them and not on the racquet stuff. As everyone knows its best to train smart.
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Adrian19 · Prolific Contributor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 230