Let's Talk Squash - SUSPENDED
suspended due to poor server performance
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Can someone explain the American decimal system for players?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Let's Talk Squash - SUSPENDED Forum Index -> GENERAL CHAT
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Stryk9
Newbie


Joined: 01 Apr 2008
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Can someone explain the American decimal system for players? Reply with quote

I keep seeing people say that they are a "5.00" player or used to be a "4.5" etc etc, can someone please explain how this works?

In canada we just go from the bottom up as --D, C, B, A , Open , those are our tournament divisions/ I'm like a lower A player, how would this transfer to your system?


I may be off the mark here, but i'm still curious.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Adrian19
Prolific Contributor


Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Posts: 230

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 5.5 is the highest... so that would be Open.
Then downward like 5.0 is A...

Really depends on your region though... would bump you up or down a grade maybe...
_________________
Foster's... it's Australian for beer!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
stevecubs
Site Admin


Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 280
Location: Whitley Bay

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like 6.5 is the highest (John White, Tony James, Julian Illingworth (7 players in all) down to 2.0 as the lowest (12 players listed), and they go in half-point intervals, so that's ten grades.

https://www.bcisoft.com/railstation/reportplayerrankings.aspx?sraid=10

About the US Squash Rating System

The US Squash ratings are based on a number scale ranging roughly from 2.0 (least likely to win any given match), through 6.5 (the most likely to win any given match).

The rating simply reflects a person's ability to win a given match. It takes into account ALL factors, such as racquet skill, speed, strength, endurance, experience and mental toughness.

To compete in a Skill Level division, a player must fall in a certain rating range prior to the tournament start date. Players may "play up", but may not play in a rating division below the specified range for that division.

An algorithm is used to calculate a player's initial rating, and his or her rating after playing each match. The algorithm is a variation of the ELO algorithm used by the National Chess Federation. Essentially, it is based on the probabilities of winning or losing the match.

If a player plays a much higher rated player, then his/her probability of winning that match is small. Thus, if he/she wins that match, then his/her rating is adjusted upward by a lot. On the other hand, if they lose that match, their rating is lowered only very slightly, if at all. Conversely, the higher rated player would have their rating lowered by a lot if they lost to the much lower rated player, but only raised by a little, if at all, if they win that match.

Players of relatively equal skill have their ratings adjusted by a moderate amount when they play each other.

The math behind the algorithm is as follows:

WRO = Winner's old rating
LRO = Loser's old rating
K = constant = .1
D = denominator = .5
PW = Probability that the winner would win =
(1/(POWER(10,(-(WRO-LRO)/D))+1))
PL = Probability that the loser would win =
(1/(POWER(10,(-(LRO-WRO)/D))+1))
WRN = Winner's new rating = (WRO+K*(1-PW))
LRN = Loser's new rating = (LRO+K*(0-PL))


Last edited by stevecubs on Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:47 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Calsquasher
Prolific Contributor


Joined: 29 Jun 2007
Posts: 203
Location: California, USA

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, now that's what I call an in-depth explanation. Thanks for that information. I live in the States and didn't have a clue how it was calculated. Guys tell me I'm around a 5.5 and that's the only way I know other than my results against the top guys since I don't play the ladder. Pushed a 6.0 guy to 10-8 in the 5th one time so I guess my rating is about right.
_________________
"Drive for show, drop for dough."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
squashclub
Prolific Contributor


Joined: 29 Jun 2007
Posts: 91
Location: Peoria, Illinois, USA

PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really simple:

2.5 - D
3.5 - C
4.5 - B
5.5 - A

Above 6.0 and you are entering the lowest of the professional rankings. According to my math, Jahanghir Khan had an 8+ rating because of this 5+ year winning streak. The top guys today are high 7.5+.
_________________
My Squash Profile
" Squash racquet is like toothbrush, once you lend it to someone, you don't want it back" Hashim Khan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Let's Talk Squash - SUSPENDED Forum Index -> GENERAL CHAT All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Powered by MakeForum.org - Free Forum Hosting
Sign Up now to get your Free Forum!