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Marro · Prolific Contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 77

What do others think of this? (Just saw that Sarah Fitzgerald is promoting them).

Trion Z at Sport Discount

Personally I don't believe any of it. Would love to see the science backing the claims.

Nick Shot · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject:

It's obviously bollocks but if one's paying £20 for it I hope one believes in it!
On another note, what's with Sports Discount? Is it the worst shop online or what? Is it just me or it just seems like they can't be bothered? Is it all part of the Paul Walters iSports group? I've just got tickets for the superseries final and it wasn't the best of experiences...

Marro · Prolific Contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 77

Nick Shot · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:

I obviously agree with you but what can one do? For some people spending money on trinkets like this is a good thing. They genuinely believe that it helps them and maybe it does help them. I used to get upset with the pseudo-science bits like "Minus-Ions" but I won't let it bother me anymore. It's just marketing speak - not science. Squash rackets are the perfect example: "Liquid Metal", "Molecular Carbon", "nCode", "Aerogel", "Titanium"- these are all pseudo-science terms and I used to go on and on about it. Now I just relax and let it pass and play with the racket that feels best.
In this context, spending £20 on a "Minus-Ions" bracelet is as bad as spending more money on a racket with "Molecular Carbon". If it feels like it makes you play better...
I prefer those wide cotton bands. You can even wipe you sweat off with them!

fionnmacual · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:

Yes, at least Lance Armstrong had the decency to say "here is a yellow plastic bracelet, pay $5 if cancer research is important to you and you might feel good about yourself for doing it but I'm not pretending it is anything other than a charity" whereas this pseudo-science is a fraud.

Now liquid-metal etc is also a fraud and we don't complain if Shabana endorses it when he could beat me with a table tennis bat... that is how professionals make a living. So we shouldn't complain when SF endorses it. Yet something makes her go down just a little bit in my estimation when she hawks this stuff.

Calsquasher · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:02 am Post subject:

If Ivan Lendl is endorsing it, there might be something to it. The guy is one of the richest tennis players in history and certainly doesn't need the money. Why would a guy that rich need to endorse some bracelet if he didn't believe in it?
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Marro · Prolific Contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 77

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Nick Shot · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

This smells like bait but I will resist and just have a little nibble. There is no physical mechanism that can explain how these bands might help. I can't find any research made on them, can you? The company looks like it spends all its money on marketing -Ivan Lendl, SF can't be cheap. Their blurb is mambo-jumbo as others have pointed out.

But listen, like homeopathy, aerogel rackets etc. if it works for you by all means use it! Just because its bollocks doesn't mean it can't help you play better. Performance is as much psychological as it is physical. I prefer sweat bands, which I can at least use to wipe my brow.

Marro · Prolific Contributor Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 77

Nick Shot · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:

Pink Panther · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:

I no a certain adult who got very high in the world rankings a few years back and he/she likes the bracelet. I asked an orthopedic?? something or other doctor thingy person who knows a lot about the body.

He says and i quote 'utter crap! There is no scientific factual proof that blood flow increases. If it does don't u think that doctors would use it for heart patients to help improve blood flow',

But they don't. Even if they do work, how can u measure this fact? I'll leave you to ponder on this issue...
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mark · Prolific Contributor Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 66

Doesn`t seem to be any hard evidence for why an ice bath after a game is good for recovery. Man those top ten IDIOTS!

It`s funny, I live in Japan and yes, the minus ion thing is huge here. Everytime I walked by a display hawking them I would think "that`s total crap"
I found it bugging me so much that people were spending 2500yen (25 USD) on something that was so "obviously bollocks" that there was only one thing left for me to do...............................buy one and see what it was all about.

That was three weeks ago. I don`t notice a difference. I have been playing great squash in that time, but i think it`s due more to my new haircut.

All that being said, I kind of like wearing it now. If I lost it, I might even buy a new one. But as mentioned above, the one I bought was half the price of the sarah f one.

Nick Shot · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:

At least the Advertising Standards Authority sees the claims as misleading:

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44475.htm

VolleyDrop · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: New Study

Interesting topic.

The hype of magnet therapy is over the top, crazy marketing which raises all sorts of red flags on my "crap-o-metre."

However, a new study shows some benefit. Check it out: Science Daily Article

Next step: find a good way to experiment on humans.

Personal experience with physiotherapy gives me the impression that my body is sensitive to magnetism and can benefit from it, but I don't think everyone would see the same results.